We got the chance to speak to Aversions Crown drummer Jayden Mason about touring and how he practices, as well as new and progressive material by the band!
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It Djents: As the tour’s about to end, how was it?
Jayden Mason: Really good, this tour has been awesome! The crowds have been good, the bands have been fantastic – old friends, so it was really easy from the start. Apart from that, the cold is being shit, haha. I like being on tour, even if it’s hard sometimes with being away from home and your family. I enjoy touring, so I can’t complain.
ID: You’ve been touring with hardcore bands as well. How do you feel about the line-up?
JM: It’s perfect for us. I like playing super heavy line-ups. Disentomb are boys from home, they play some brutal death metal. There’s technical stuff like ours, and deathcore with Oceano and Carnifex. It’s a solid tour line-up to do an European run.
ID: Did Carnifex have a big influence of your music?
JM: To be honest, we didn’t really draw influence from Carnifex. None of us even listened to them before this tour, because at least for me personally, I’m not a big deathcore advocate. I don’t listen to them specifically, I listen to a lot of other music, and maybe this is why we are so extreme in our style of deathcore. But the Carnifex guys are great to tour with. And now I listen to them. I always find a lot of new bands when touring with them, that’s great!
ID: So which bands would you name as your influences?
JM: Man, that’s really, really hard. A lot of extreme metal bands, older stuff, like Nile, Meshuggah, and newer up-and-comers, like Fleshgod Apocalypse. That’s actually a hard question. Maybe also Obscura, Aborted, Decapitation. I could keep naming, but for the drumming, it’s always extreme metal bands. I guess with Aversions Crown we try to do our own thing with the spacey, atmospheric stuff, because no one did something like this in Australia on this extreme way of music. But that’s a very hard question, haha!
ID: You are touring Europe quite often. Have you ever thought about doing this?
JM: Absolutely not, I haven’t even thought about leaving my city. It’s really mindblowing. We started in Australia and we thought ‘this is really cool‘. First time in Europe was ‘this is crazy‘. Now it has gotten bigger and bigger. It’s great, sometimes I forget about how crazy it is, haha!
ID: There is a hype for Australian bands. Which bands would you name as important for yourself, and how do you think about the hype?
JM: Our buddies in Thy Art Is Murder, they are good friends, cool guys, great band. Also Make Them Suffer and Ocean Grove. That’s another hard one, I’m so shit at names. That’s a big list.
Speaking of the hype: I think so too, which is a good thing for us, because it’s hard to get here. I don’t think a lot of people realize that it’s a very big thing for an Australian band to come over to the US or Europe. It’s a pain in the ass to leave Australia and a lot of bands break up because they see the expenses and the budgets are just crazy. If you can break that barrier, it’s always appreciated how hyped Australian bands are.
ID: Is there a continent you prefer touring?
JM: Well, I do like the US. But the hospitality and the people in Europe are great as well. I would say that I enjoy this a little bit more, even if the US weather is better, haha!
ID: Tell me, how long do you take for your drum set-up!
JM: Oh man, I would say 15-20 minutes. Sometimes it’s an hour, because we are fucking around and get very slow. But usually we are helping everyone, so it is very easy.
ID: How much practicing do you need to stay fit?
JM: How much a day? Probably not enough, haha! I usually do an hour. It’s my minimum. I have a casual job and if I’m busy with it I’m doing an hour. But I don’t work every day, and sometimes when I feel great it’s like 5 hours a day. But somedays you wake up and don’t feel it, you know? It definitely depends.
ID: And how do you practice usually?
JM: I pretty much try to make lists of weaknesses. With drums it’s a stamina thing, your fitness is a big deal as well. I need to practice my weaknesses. Also songs I have to learn or record. I would say 40 minutes of warming up and an hour of songs, followed by an hour of things to work on. And afterwards I am checking what was good and what sucked. If the songs worked out well I don’t have to touch them the next days. If my single strokes sucked, I am going to focus on them the next day. I would never do the same thing over and over again, I keep switching it up depending on the needs.
ID: How much preparation do you need before a show?
JM: It depends on the venue and on the time we have. Usually as soon as the band before us starts I start warming up. 30-40 minutes. When it’s cold I am doing more, because the cold fucks up the body.
ID: So do you sometimes feel not prepared enough?
JM: Absolutely man, every show. You can always feel very prepared, but every night with extreme music, it’s a different scenario. A lot of people don’t understand and say ‘they were shit tonight‘, whilst they don’t realize that three of the band could be sick, haven’t slept at night, or something else. As soon as I start playing, I feel what’s capable. It’s super hard to say I would be 100% prepared, because there are too many things going on, haha.
ID: What keeps you going on a tour? Do you need something special?
JM: Not really. I try to be ‘super healthy’, not eating that much shit or chocolate. I am boring. I drink a lot of coffee and I am not into alcohol or any other drugs. If I am very tired I will take a Red Bull, but that’s it. We do some push-ups with the boys to get our bodies warm, but it’s hard when you’re feeling too tired, haha.
ID: Let’s talk about new music. Are you working on something?
JM: We’ve got pretty much a whole album written. We’re in the stage of sorting out the recording process. We are super excited to play new material, even though we love Xenocide in the way it went. It was super successful for us, but we definitely have a lot of new songs that we are super keen to record and show to people. That will happen in the next few months.
ID: Awesome! So are you going to change your sound a bit?
JM: It’s definitely a bit different. We’re obviously not changing the band, but we’re trying to get away from the deathcore name, because I don’t feel that Aversions Crown ever has been a deathcore band. We’ve got a lot of different elements. There’s a few slow songs on it, but it’s more technical and progressive and the drums are pretty crazy. There are a few faster, death metal-focused songs on it, and it still has this spacey atmosphere. It’s a lot more riff-based, a lot more catchy stuff in it as well. So we are trying to get more progressively-sounding, I guess. It’s a different sort of heavy in the way we wrote it!
ID: And is there a fear that people won’t dig it?
JM: Yeah, of course. Everyone in the world is not gonna like what we do. But I couldn’t care less, because if you don’t like it – don’t listen to it. We do it for the people that like it. It’s cool for us if some people don’t do so. We will continue on ours and there are always people who hate on something else. It doesn’t bother me.
ID: Healthy attitude. So what would you state to your fans at the end?
JM: I hope everyone enjoys the new stuff. I hope it comes out super soon and I hope they dig the direction we are going. Come hang out with us. We are super easygoing people, haha, that’s it man!
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